I interviewed a great Web Comic mind, Ben Gordon. He has a lot of great insight into the world of webcomics! Enjoy the interview!
Q: You seem to have your hand in a lot of great webcomic sites, including writing and creating Lil' Nyet and Scratching Post, and keeping tabs on many more. What exactly have you done, do you do, and where can one see the work?
A: I do two comics in collaboration with my wife, "Pug." Scratchin Post is an old school, funny animal comic, featuring a community where the citizens are dogs, cats, pigs and other animals instead of people. The plot revolves around a daffy Labrador, two quarrelsome Russian cat sisters, a family of poodles and some cats who live in a vacant lot.
Li'l Nyet is a short form humorous satire about the futility of repressing the human spirit. It's set in Russia under the Soviets. Nyet is a demon in the Ministry of Security, and her form suggests a theological angle: that evil cannot prevail against hope. I'm Russian, so this is real fun for me.
Psychedelic Treehouse is a sprawling site full of resources, reference, art galleries, directories and commentary dedicated to web comics. It also has a sizable link list, and the only major directory of comics collectives on the web.
Floating Lightbulb is my web comics blog, updated daily. The name is from the lightbulb that appears over a character's head when he has an idea.
Flavorwhip is a web comics collective Pug and I co-founded with Nathan Castle, who does Seamonster. It's intended to specialize in long-form, color comics. Malachi Sharlow, who does Redmask, is our newest member.
I recently started an experiment: a forum focused on the discussion of web comic promotion. Interested people can contact me at any of my sites for info.
Q: As far as promoting your two main webcomics, what methods do you take? Do you pay for advertising, if so, where? And what is the best method to find readers?
A: The best method for finding readers is to be irresistibly interesting and post updates seven days a week. Of course, that kind of update schedule is impossible for most people, so the next best thing is to have an update schedule and post reliably.
We spent a lot of time jiggering our sites; then, when it was time to promote, we joined EntreCard to get a quick boost. EntreCard owner Graham Langdon had just asked me to help establish a web comic section on his service, so I put my sites there for ballast while I spent a couple of months recruiting others. We picked up some steady readers and got lots of mail and other signs of progress, but in the end we disagreed over the management approach toward a few bad apples who I feel are undermining the site, and I left.
We've started pay ads through Project Wonderful, and we are trying ads on dozens of sites. I got some great advice about starting via Barb Jacobs, who does Xylia, so we won't be newbs for too long.
We also pursue trades. Since Scratchin Post features the cat breed Russian Blues, we contacted Russianblue.org and they put our banner on their site. We promote them at every opportunity.
Free link sites like Belfry are important too. I imagine everyone will want to be on the new ComicSpace site due this summer, unless the design is a flop.
Q: I notice you do not run paid advertising on your webcomics. May I ask why?
A: A few reasons. We were adjusting our site lay-out as we learned, and didn't want to be moving ads around like furniture. We're also wary of how the page will look with ads. We'll try ads on the other sites first, to learn, then maybe copy We the Robots' layout strategy. We want to build traffic enough to make ads worthwhile for people.
Q: Some of my webcomics, if chosen, might include animated gifs, floatover animations, unusual panel size, to help enhance the story. Do you think gimmicks such as these add anything to a webcomic, assuming that they are used effectively?
A: They add page load time and browser SNAFUs! But that doesn't mean that done right, they aren't great. They are all tools of the imagination, but they are not substitutes for it. My personal favorite is a subtle one -- run a mouse over the title of We the Robots.
Q: One of my goals, is to create a webcomic that can in the end of the run, if successful, be turned easily into a publishable print format. Do you feel that is something your webcomics may one day turn into?
A: We are older than many web comics people, and have a background in print books and zines. We've been very careful not to close the door on print by planning format and coloring to accommodate it. If we have a successful comic, we'll print it. The business model can't rely on print, but it must hope for it.
Q: In the grand scheme that is the world of webcomics, what is the hardest thing to make your comic a success? And what tips would you give to me, being somebody that would be trying this for the first time?
A: We must all confront the fact that we will never get the appreciation and respect we deserve. Observers underestimate the work and over-estimate the positive reinforcement from readers.
Consequently, you have to do a comic that you love. You must enjoy doing it, and you must feel affection for the characters. We took several years to develop Scratchin Post -- although Li'l Nyet came together in less than a month.
Remember I'm trying to figure out how to make my own comics successful, and it's frightening, even for a seasoned entrepreneur like me. When I look at the top comics, the majority of them have no soul and are noticeably shallower than the top print indy comics. I can't name more than one or two web comics with 10,000+ readers I admire, though there are some I respect. There is no hard evidence that there is an big audience on the web for my work. I'm counting on finding readers around the globe, and contemplating releasing Li'l Nyet in Russian.
Q: Besides your own, what are your favorite webcomics?
A: In no order: We the Robots, minus, Ugly Girl, Zip and Li'l Bit, Seamonster, Redmask. Probably the most famous one I read is Cyanide and Happiness, but the multiple writers means there are competing visions of the universe, and I see lost opportunities to develop some witty story arcs.
I'm intrigued by a new one called Weird Fishes.
All these comics, including mine, can be subscribed on Piperka.
(end of interview. thanks to Ben Gordon for all his wisdom)
also see the interview Ben Gordon did with me, and vote on which webcomic I should make here.
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Wednesday, June 18, 2008
Monday, June 16, 2008
Web Comic interview!
Ben Gordon, webcomic creator & enthusiast has agreed to do matching interviews with me. Here is his questions and my answers, and soon I will post my questions and his answers. Ben is a part of these websites you should all check out:
Red Menace
Scratching Post
Flavor Whip
Floating Light Blub
Psychedelic Tree House
To the interview:
BG: You're a professional artist, so you know the rough and tumble. From where you stand, how do the opportunities look in web comics today by comparison?
I think online artwork is a very smart thing to do now days. With the ease of Google Adsense and easy adspace selling companies like Project Wonderful it seems like any skill one might have translate into potential success. Webcomics seem to be a great way to tell a story and find an audience.
BG: More people are discovering web comics every day. What was your introduction, and how has your experience progressed?
One of the first things I ever did when I had a computer with internet was find webcomics. I've actually never found one that help my attention longer than a year or so, however I enjoy finding archived runs of webcomics and reading the entire collection. The way webcomics gives a reader instant access to the backlog, makes it a very exciting encounter. If you like this comic.....read it all right now. As webcomics evolve and become more impressive, its nice to get a variety from all over the world, with thousands of stories of subject matters. It is becoming a very monumental way to tell a story.
BG: You recently polled your art blog readers, asking which of eight themes they preferred if you develop a web comic. What was learned?
So far not as much as I would hope. I want to continue to feed my readers and art collectors to this voting process. The vote is partially to convey that I want my audience to feel like they have influence on what I create. It is also a way to get feedback on my ideas, I have a history of getting overly excited about an idea that nobody wants to see. I want to do everything I can to keep that from happening.
BG: When I use page hits, fan voting and awards to identify the most popular web comics, the range in sophistication of those titles is enormous. Looking at the more primitive art styles and mixed writing quality of some of the popular title must make success look easy. Or does it make it look random?
Interesting question. I think each webcomic can appeal to an entirely different crowd. Which is why webcomics have so much potential. You can set up star wars action figures and simply add word bubbles and have a successful webcomic. If you know what audience you are attempting to please, your writing and artwork can vary. I think a lot of people can get lucky, but most comics that are successful seem to know exactly who their are writing for and how to get them to read their work.
BG: One thing I know about success: a really good comic stands a much better chance than one that is just OK. Some comics creators are content to do their strip and aren't expecting to break out. But there are many who are very hungry who are going to fail, and entering the web comic world means breathing in the fumes of desperation. How do you plan to cope?
You mentioned to me the concept of "short form comics". I am not completely familiar with the term, however, I do know that all of my concepts are based around the idea that there is a concrete beginning and end. I have no interest in starting a story that cannot finish in 5 years. I would much rather create a short run, or do a chapter, with no schedule as to when the next chapter may be created. I understand the desperation of simply being an artist, and realize setting small goals is the best way to go. Plus, there is nothing worse than dissapointing your readers.
BG: What web comics catch your eye?
I seem to research webcomics more than i read them recently. I like the way Red Mask looks, being computer generated. I also enjoy the many Battle Chaser-esque fantasy style that a lot of people seem to be creating. I have to admit i feel the writing in most comics are lacking, although i find some of the funniest webcomics and most addictive are typically not very impressive artistically, and thus not eye catching.
BG: Will you share some links to your art?
Indeed. Here is an image i planned to use for the cover of a collection of 4 page graphic novels. This is one of a few sketches for my immortality blog. Also a link to my creature illustrations .
Red Menace
Scratching Post
Flavor Whip
Floating Light Blub
Psychedelic Tree House
To the interview:
BG: You're a professional artist, so you know the rough and tumble. From where you stand, how do the opportunities look in web comics today by comparison?
I think online artwork is a very smart thing to do now days. With the ease of Google Adsense and easy adspace selling companies like Project Wonderful it seems like any skill one might have translate into potential success. Webcomics seem to be a great way to tell a story and find an audience.
BG: More people are discovering web comics every day. What was your introduction, and how has your experience progressed?
One of the first things I ever did when I had a computer with internet was find webcomics. I've actually never found one that help my attention longer than a year or so, however I enjoy finding archived runs of webcomics and reading the entire collection. The way webcomics gives a reader instant access to the backlog, makes it a very exciting encounter. If you like this comic.....read it all right now. As webcomics evolve and become more impressive, its nice to get a variety from all over the world, with thousands of stories of subject matters. It is becoming a very monumental way to tell a story.
BG: You recently polled your art blog readers, asking which of eight themes they preferred if you develop a web comic. What was learned?
So far not as much as I would hope. I want to continue to feed my readers and art collectors to this voting process. The vote is partially to convey that I want my audience to feel like they have influence on what I create. It is also a way to get feedback on my ideas, I have a history of getting overly excited about an idea that nobody wants to see. I want to do everything I can to keep that from happening.
BG: When I use page hits, fan voting and awards to identify the most popular web comics, the range in sophistication of those titles is enormous. Looking at the more primitive art styles and mixed writing quality of some of the popular title must make success look easy. Or does it make it look random?
Interesting question. I think each webcomic can appeal to an entirely different crowd. Which is why webcomics have so much potential. You can set up star wars action figures and simply add word bubbles and have a successful webcomic. If you know what audience you are attempting to please, your writing and artwork can vary. I think a lot of people can get lucky, but most comics that are successful seem to know exactly who their are writing for and how to get them to read their work.
BG: One thing I know about success: a really good comic stands a much better chance than one that is just OK. Some comics creators are content to do their strip and aren't expecting to break out. But there are many who are very hungry who are going to fail, and entering the web comic world means breathing in the fumes of desperation. How do you plan to cope?
You mentioned to me the concept of "short form comics". I am not completely familiar with the term, however, I do know that all of my concepts are based around the idea that there is a concrete beginning and end. I have no interest in starting a story that cannot finish in 5 years. I would much rather create a short run, or do a chapter, with no schedule as to when the next chapter may be created. I understand the desperation of simply being an artist, and realize setting small goals is the best way to go. Plus, there is nothing worse than dissapointing your readers.
BG: What web comics catch your eye?
I seem to research webcomics more than i read them recently. I like the way Red Mask looks, being computer generated. I also enjoy the many Battle Chaser-esque fantasy style that a lot of people seem to be creating. I have to admit i feel the writing in most comics are lacking, although i find some of the funniest webcomics and most addictive are typically not very impressive artistically, and thus not eye catching.
BG: Will you share some links to your art?
Indeed. Here is an image i planned to use for the cover of a collection of 4 page graphic novels. This is one of a few sketches for my immortality blog. Also a link to my creature illustrations .
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